German Pocket Watch......or not?

by John Inman
(Salisbury Wiltshire UK)

German Pocket Watch Front

German Pocket Watch Front

I am just trying to discover the provenance of this pocket watch which has been in my family for some time but only resurfaced recently. Legend has it that it is German and acquired somehow during World War 2.


This watch has no maker's name displayed anywhere I can see either inside or outside. It has an inner and outer hinged cover on the back with the numbers 34946 engraved inside the outer cover. The only writing visible on the movement are the words 'avance' and 'retard'. The front has 4 subsidiary dials in addition to the main face giving the day of the week, day of the month, the month of the year as well as a second hand. The main dial has roman numerals. The glass looks like perspex as it is very yellowed and sounds like plastic when tapped.

I have a photo of the innards if that would help.

Any help would be much appreciated........

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German Pocket Watch
by: Don

I have a pocket watch similar to yours with an inner and outer back hinged cover. The outer back hinge cover has the crown and moon mark to the left and Ideal in an oval to the right. At the top is 84 and below that is 0.875, and at the bottom is 405987 and below that is K & M, and several jewelers marks.

The inside hinged cover has all of the same information except the word Ideal. This watch has some German engraving on the back of the inner hinged cover interpreted reads "for memory of long years of faithful work of A. Melchior & Co., Aurtingen." The inner workings has Advance and Retard, and I can find no other markings there. I purchased this item some time back at an estate sale and was told that the owner was in World War II, and took it from a German prisoner.

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